power outage before transaction arrived (Electrum on Tails)

[joe1234]

Hello

I am wondering what could happen to my BTC funds under the following circumstances...



1.
creating a new wallet in Electrum (on Tails with NO persistence, that means a Linux Live System)


2.
writing down the 12 word seed


3.
sharing the wallet-address to a donor


4.
donor send BTC to my (wallet) address



5.
Power outage of my PC running Electrum (on Tails with NO persistence)



Question:

Does it depend on how long the PC running Electrum on Tails (with NO persistence) was connected to the
internet/blockchain (before the power outage happened), whether my Bitcoins are lost or not?




Thank's a lot!

[Zaguru12]

Bitcoin been sent to your wallet doesn’t actually requires your electrum wallet to be always on, it will eventually get to the wallet address if at all the sender had broadcast the transaction.

The only reason why after the transaction has been sent to your wallet and it didn’t appear if you had power outage is when the wallet hasn’t sync to the latest block. For someone running there own node they will usually have this problem but with electrum you’re not running your own node so if your network connection is strong, electrum will definitely synced that transaction.

The other reason why you can’t see it might be it hasn’t been confirmed but electrum will also show you an incoming transaction even before it gets confirmed

[Charles-Tim]

Know that what needs internet are the nodes and there are many of them that are always online, receiving and routing necessary information to other nodes. You do not need to make your wallet go online before you can receive coins. Cold wallets that does not go online at all but the transactions can be tracked on blockchain explorer or on a watch-only wallet. You can go online at anytime, your wallet will synchronize with the blockchain and you will see your coins received on your wallet.

Edit:

The other reason why you can’t see it might be it hasn’t been confirmed but electrum will also show you an incoming transaction even before it gets confirmed

Electrum will show the transaction on the balance even when the transaction has not been confirmed. You can even spend the unconfirmed coins before it is confirmed and the transaction will be successful if the parent transaction later becomes confirmed. But if the parent transaction becomes invalid, the child transaction will become invalid also.

[promise444c5]

Your Bitcoin is till intact, only your setups are gone since it was “non persistence”, reimport your seed and get your wallet again.. Use a watch only wallet with the “Zpub”  derived already :- on your hot wallet to track your balance instead and then you can always import your seed again on your cold storage wallet  running on tails to sign transaction whenever you need to do that.

[rdluffy]

This is a very good feature of Bitcoin, you don't need to be online to receive any value
From the moment you write down the seed you are safe

An example of security: you can create a wallet on Tails, write down the seed, your public addresses and then turn everything off, never going online with that wallet again.
You will always be able to receive your satoshis at these addresses and your wallet will be safe.
The day you want to move your balance, you put in the seed and you'll have the entire balance of all the transactions you've received, without needing to be connected

[nc50lc]

AFAIK, you previously asked not-so-distant questions about four years ago.
Is this related to that setup?: /index.php?topic=5359941.msg57935920#msg57935920

Interestingly, you seem to forget your previous threads and ask questions that you should've known since you must have used/tested it before.
Like this thread three years later where you asked if the seed can restore old funds: /index.php?topic=5504113
I have a note there as well, link: /index.php?topic=5504113.msg64361703#msg64361703

I also noticed that you rarely reply in your recent or old topics.
In that regard, a reply isn't mandatory but it's good for closure for us to know if the answers are already sufficient or if the issue is already resolved.

For this thread's question: it's good since your wallet isn't the one that's receiving those transactions, it's saved in every nodes' mempools then, in the Blockchain that those nodes keep.
For the seed's purpose and how your transactions populate the 'history' tab, refer to my post in that link above.

[joe1234]

AFAIK, you previously asked not-so-distant questions about four years ago.
Is this related to that setup?: /index.php?topic=5359941.msg57935920#msg57935920

Interestingly, you seem to forget your previous threads and ask questions that you should've known since you must have used/tested it before.
Like this thread three years later where you asked if the seed can restore old funds: /index.php?topic=5504113
I have a note there as well, link: /index.php?topic=5504113.msg64361703#msg64361703

You are right, I have asked similar questions in the past. However, I can assure you that today is the first time
I have had real-world experience with Bitcoin.


In this case, my focus was on whether the initial connection duration of Electrum with the Internet/node/blockchain
has any influence on whether BTC funds can be lost.

Thank you very much for your patience and the good answers. I have learned a lot from them

[Sidney986]

The Bitcoin ledger is stored on the internet, not the wallet.  If the internet was working at the time the sender sent the funds to the address created from your seed words and the transaction was successfully entered into the block chain ledger then you will have control of those funds once you restore your seed words to a wallet with an internet connection.