2FA wallet, that has lost access to the 2FA.

[Skrodk]

Hey guys,
My friend has made an electrum wallet on my advice. Now he wants to move the coins out of it.

However, it seems that there is now 2FA on it? He swears he never put that on there, and dont know about any code.

So two questions:

-Can the 2FA be put on it with some sort of wallet update, or is it only possible that it was made like this and subsequently forgotten?

-How can we gain access to this wallet now?

[Charles-Tim]

Your friend added the 2FA and Electrum generated 2FA seed phrase for him. The wallet can not be converted to non-2FA.

Tell him to use the seed phrase to recover the wallet, he will see where he will by-pass the 2FA.


He should click on wallet with two-factor authentication -> I already have a seed. He should paste the seed and click on next. He will see this:



Click on disable to bypass it.

[Skrodk]

Your friend added the 2FA and Electrum generated 2FA seed phrase for him. The wallet can not be converted to non-2FA.

Tell him to use the seed phrase to recover the wallet, he will see where he will by-pass the 2FA.


He should click on wallet with two-factor authentication -> I already have a seed. He should paste the seed and click on next. He will see this:

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Click on disable to bypass it.

What does two master keys mean?

[Charles-Tim]

What does two master keys mean?

2FA wallet on Electrum is 2-of-3 multisig wallet. You have 2 keys with you. 1 for signing transactions, and Trustedcoin has 1 which their server is using to sign transactions. When you disable the 2FA, you will be able to use your own 2 keys to sign transactions which makes Trustedcoin key not needed after the 2FA has been disabled.

[hosemary]

What does two master keys mean?

Do you have the seed phrase of your 2FA wallet?
Electrum displayed that when you generated your 2FA wallet. I hope you have saved that somewhere.

If you have the seed phrase of your 2FA wallet, you can disable 2FA.
As mentioned above by Charles-Tim, you need two of master private keys to sign any transaction from your wallet and I would like to add that your seed phrase can generate all master public keys and two of master private keys.
Therefore, your seed phrase is all you need to disable 2FA and you don't need to enter your master keys anywhere.

[Forsyth Jones]

What does two master keys mean?

Beyond the excellent answers above, [1]in both the Electrum docs and the [2] TrustedCoin's official FAQ (the company responsible for keeping one of the three keys on its server and for co-signing transactions and returning the fully signed transaction so that it can then be transmitted) you will be aware of how it works with all the details and clarification of other questions.

It's been a long time since I used this type of wallet (2FA), I'd even forgotten how it works, but this topic is great for everyone to better understand how Electrum's 2FA wallets work.

[1] - Electrum docs - Two Factor Authentication
[2] - TrustedCoin FAQ - What is an Electrum 2FA Wallet and how does it work?

[BitMaxz]

I just want to add this as a suggestion: if your friend has the seed phrase to recover this wallet, I suggest that it must be recovered offline, do an offline transaction, and transfer all funds to a new wallet.

Since you are disabling the 2FA, when recovering a wallet, always do it in offline mode to avoid online attacks.

TrustedCoin also has its own recovery tool that you can download here and use it on an offline device to create a wallet with unencrypted and disabled 2FA wallet. And tell your friend to import that wallet to an offline device with Electrum, and don't forget to tell him to generate a new wallet and move all funds through the offline transaction.

Honestly, I don't recommend using 2FA again if you don't want your friend to suffer in the future, because any transaction made from a 2FA wallet is slightly higher compared to a normal wallet encrypted with a password.

[Abdussamad]

Does your friend have an entry for trusted coin in their google authenticator app on their phone?

[Skrodk]

Does your friend have an entry for trusted coin in their google authenticator app on their phone?

He does not, he's an older gentlemen, and my guess is that he has somehow pressed this when making the wallet or has actually forgotten about the google authenticator.

Is the code potentially something else than than a code from an authenticator app? Like can it be setup to just be a "regular" code - because he does have some codes written down, that could be that.

I just want to add this as a suggestion: if your friend has the seed phrase to recover this wallet, I suggest that it must be recovered offline, do an offline transaction, and transfer all funds to a new wallet.

Since you are disabling the 2FA, when recovering a wallet, always do it in offline mode to avoid online attacks.

TrustedCoin also has its own recovery tool that you can download here and use it on an offline device to create a wallet with unencrypted and disabled 2FA wallet. And tell your friend to import that wallet to an offline device with Electrum, and don't forget to tell him to generate a new wallet and move all funds through the offline transaction.

Honestly, I don't recommend using 2FA again if you don't want your friend to suffer in the future, because any transaction made from a 2FA wallet is slightly higher compared to a normal wallet encrypted with a password.

Okay, so I can tell you my current idea, to make this whole setup safer for him to use. I have gotten him to purchase a hardware wallet. My idea would have been to make 1 test transaction, and then simply sending the coins to this wallet, making everything safer and easier to use.

I wish to put safety as the utmost importance here, as this additional 2FA block has got me a bit nervous.

We have the seed phrase. is there a way to check if this is the correct one/is legit? I am very interested in hearing that there is a way to make transactions offline.

I would also love to hear more about doing the offline transaction? How is this possible, and how can this be done in a safe way (Even for somebody only medium techsavy)

I havent messed around with this stuff before, and ofcourse its paramount we do not get hacked somehow at this stage, as it seems the most risky.

[hosemary]

We have the seed phrase. is there a way to check if this is the correct one/is legit?

Create a new wallet in electrum.
Select "Wallet with two-factor authentication". After that, select "I already have a seed" and in the next window, enter your seed phrase.
If the seed phrase belongs to  2FA wallet, you will see a message saying "Seed type: 2FA".
In the next window, select "Disable". If you have imported the correct seed phrase, electrum will show the correct balance and you will be able to make transaction without any need to 2FA code.

[BitMaxz]

I would also love to hear more about doing the offline transaction? How is this possible, and how can this be done in a safe way (Even for somebody only medium techsavy)

You need 2 separate device one is offline and the another one is online.
First, follow the guide provided by hosemary above do it on offline device and copy the master public key xpub/zpub you can find it under wallet information with 3 master public keys save them into text file and transfer it to online device to import it to online Electrum wallet.

Check this guide Create a watch only version of your 2FA wallet.

Once you've done that correctly you should be able to see on watch-only wallet your current balance. Now just make a normal transaction with the watch-only wallet then click pay and advanced to view the unsigned transaction and then click copy/share save it into PSBT or just raw and save it into text file.

If you done it correctly transfer them into offline wallet and import it to sign the transaction.

After signing it once again copy the signed transaction raw or PSBT and transfer it back to online watch-only wallet and broadcast the transaction.

I hope you can follow let me know if which one you stuck.

[khaled0111]

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Are you sure this wallet belongs to your old gentleman friend?
If yes, then all you need is the wallet seed as hosemary explained above.
You can restore the wallet from seed and disable the 2FA  and you will restore a 2 of 3 wallet where you have 2 keys out of three, so you are in total control of the wallet and you cansrnd/transfer the funds wherever you want.

If this is not your old gentlman friend’s wallet, then forget about it and move on..